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		<title>By: randal williams</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-9840</link>
		<dc:creator>randal williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thinkhost - think PONZI scheme

it is that simple - they are the bermuda triangle of customer care - they have no intention of providing a refund and it is unethical of them to offer one given their actual system of organization

1 hour into a two year agreement I sent in my request for a refund. It disappeared into their support system and I have to suggest that that was no accident. There is no &#039;billing@thinkhost.com&#039; email and this is where I was told by their customer care rep to up level my request for a refund.

thinkhost is a PONZI scheme and it is that simple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thinkhost &#8211; think PONZI scheme</p>
<p>it is that simple &#8211; they are the bermuda triangle of customer care &#8211; they have no intention of providing a refund and it is unethical of them to offer one given their actual system of organization</p>
<p>1 hour into a two year agreement I sent in my request for a refund. It disappeared into their support system and I have to suggest that that was no accident. There is no &#8216;billing@thinkhost.com&#8217; email and this is where I was told by their customer care rep to up level my request for a refund.</p>
<p>thinkhost is a PONZI scheme and it is that simple</p>
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		<title>By: Sherie Wagoner</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-9794</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherie Wagoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they are based in Canada, I&#039;m in the US, I have no idea who I should report them to, the Canadian Mounted Police?  Whatever the Canadian equivalent is of district attorneys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they are based in Canada, I&#8217;m in the US, I have no idea who I should report them to, the Canadian Mounted Police?  Whatever the Canadian equivalent is of district attorneys?</p>
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		<title>By: Sherie Wagoner</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-9793</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherie Wagoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry, I&#039;m so sorry to hear about your problem with thinkhost, particularly since I found it a week AFTER I signed up with them, and a number of hours after I requested that they cancel my service and refund my money.  I am dreadfully afraid I&#039;m going to have to file a fraud report or a chargeback on my credit card to see my money back.

Did you ever get your money back, either from thinkhost or your credit card company?  Did you ever file a BBB or legal complaint of some form?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, I&#8217;m so sorry to hear about your problem with thinkhost, particularly since I found it a week AFTER I signed up with them, and a number of hours after I requested that they cancel my service and refund my money.  I am dreadfully afraid I&#8217;m going to have to file a fraud report or a chargeback on my credit card to see my money back.</p>
<p>Did you ever get your money back, either from thinkhost or your credit card company?  Did you ever file a BBB or legal complaint of some form?</p>
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		<title>By: ThinkHost: Eco-friendly Hosting, But At What Cost? &#124; Musings For A Darkened Room</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-9640</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkHost: Eco-friendly Hosting, But At What Cost? &#124; Musings For A Darkened Room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I had only been familiar with 1&amp;1 and HostGator through client work. Around that same time Donna Fontenot mentioned of the eco-friendly hosting provider ThinkHost.  Being a very green minded individual I thought using ThinkHost was a great opportunity since it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-9257</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO NOT USE THINKHOST!!!

Like most people I signed up my client with thinkhost because I valued their socially-conscious low carbon footprint web hosting. If I had known the problems that would ensue, I never would have paid them any money. My story is really quite simple. Due to some technical issue, I never received a welcome email detailing how I could access the control panel, and Dns transfer fields, etc. I sent them a support ticket, which was my first clue that trouble was brewing. At that time I also noticed a small message saying &quot;sorry for the technical problems while we migrate our servers.&quot; (yikes, if I&#039;d only seen that before!) Also, a comment on support-ticket systems; when a company does not provide any email or phone contact information, it is usually because they want a barrier between them and their customers behind which to hide. I&#039;m not kidding about this, I recommend you Never do business with a company that uses only support-ticket systems for technical support. Anyway, I explained that my client couldn&#039;t wait for them to sort out their problems, and wanted to cancel the account. This was completely in accordance with their advertised money-back guarantee. After filling out the necessary online forms, I received an email saying that my account had been cancelled, sorry to see me go, etc. I could feel that something was wrong, so I kept track of my credit card statement online, and what do you know? They had cancelled my account without refunding my credit card. Keep in mind, I had never used their service for even a second, had quickly followed up in asking for a refund, had been polite, etc, etc. All this is moot anyway because they advertise a money-back guarantee. So again I sent another support-ticket, asking, quite assertively, for my credit card to be refunded. The email I received was the most bullying legalese I have ever experienced. They claimed that by paying them I had agreed to their contract (true), and that they would not refund my money at all. However the contract I had agreed to also stated a money-back guarantee. If you&#039;ve ever been ripped off by a company like this before, you know the feeling. It&#039;s tantamount to be robbed on the street. You feel powerless and angry. This is how I feel now. Why would you want to risk doing business with this company? Why will they treat you any differently? A company which creates conflicting policies offering money-back guarantees in one paragraph and reserving the right to reject claims in another, is not a company dedicated to customer service, or social change.</description>
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<p>Like most people I signed up my client with thinkhost because I valued their socially-conscious low carbon footprint web hosting. If I had known the problems that would ensue, I never would have paid them any money. My story is really quite simple. Due to some technical issue, I never received a welcome email detailing how I could access the control panel, and Dns transfer fields, etc. I sent them a support ticket, which was my first clue that trouble was brewing. At that time I also noticed a small message saying &#8220;sorry for the technical problems while we migrate our servers.&#8221; (yikes, if I&#8217;d only seen that before!) Also, a comment on support-ticket systems; when a company does not provide any email or phone contact information, it is usually because they want a barrier between them and their customers behind which to hide. I&#8217;m not kidding about this, I recommend you Never do business with a company that uses only support-ticket systems for technical support. Anyway, I explained that my client couldn&#8217;t wait for them to sort out their problems, and wanted to cancel the account. This was completely in accordance with their advertised money-back guarantee. After filling out the necessary online forms, I received an email saying that my account had been cancelled, sorry to see me go, etc. I could feel that something was wrong, so I kept track of my credit card statement online, and what do you know? They had cancelled my account without refunding my credit card. Keep in mind, I had never used their service for even a second, had quickly followed up in asking for a refund, had been polite, etc, etc. All this is moot anyway because they advertise a money-back guarantee. So again I sent another support-ticket, asking, quite assertively, for my credit card to be refunded. The email I received was the most bullying legalese I have ever experienced. They claimed that by paying them I had agreed to their contract (true), and that they would not refund my money at all. However the contract I had agreed to also stated a money-back guarantee. If you&#8217;ve ever been ripped off by a company like this before, you know the feeling. It&#8217;s tantamount to be robbed on the street. You feel powerless and angry. This is how I feel now. Why would you want to risk doing business with this company? Why will they treat you any differently? A company which creates conflicting policies offering money-back guarantees in one paragraph and reserving the right to reject claims in another, is not a company dedicated to customer service, or social change.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-9127</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve encountered people who love them and I&#039;ve encountered people who hate them....which is pretty much the same for every web host I&#039;ve ever used or heard of.

I&#039;m certainly willing to let people see the negative comments, as I&#039;ve obviously allowed them to be here.  But what I&#039;d love to hear is instead of just &quot;xyz webhost sucks&quot; is &quot;use abc webhost instead&quot;.  What&#039;s your alternative choice for a green host?  Found one you like better?  Share it with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve encountered people who love them and I&#8217;ve encountered people who hate them&#8230;.which is pretty much the same for every web host I&#8217;ve ever used or heard of.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certainly willing to let people see the negative comments, as I&#8217;ve obviously allowed them to be here.  But what I&#8217;d love to hear is instead of just &#8220;xyz webhost sucks&#8221; is &#8220;use abc webhost instead&#8221;.  What&#8217;s your alternative choice for a green host?  Found one you like better?  Share it with us.</p>
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		<title>By: scott e.</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-9126</link>
		<dc:creator>scott e.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinkhost&#039;s service and bogus guarantee is so bad that is immoral to recommend this hosting company.  They will not honor their 120-day guarantee despite their poor uptime and pitiful, &quot;open source&quot; excuse for a control panel.  You can&#039;t know these things until you sign up -- for two years.  And you must unwittingly waive your rights to a refund related to &quot;all service level issues&quot;, which means you really have no guarantee at all, they won&#039;t refund your money under any circumstances, and you risk being able to charge it back.  This appears to be a clever, carefully organized scheme, and your original endorsement reads like their advertising verbatim without offering any mention of first hand experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinkhost&#8217;s service and bogus guarantee is so bad that is immoral to recommend this hosting company.  They will not honor their 120-day guarantee despite their poor uptime and pitiful, &#8220;open source&#8221; excuse for a control panel.  You can&#8217;t know these things until you sign up &#8212; for two years.  And you must unwittingly waive your rights to a refund related to &#8220;all service level issues&#8221;, which means you really have no guarantee at all, they won&#8217;t refund your money under any circumstances, and you risk being able to charge it back.  This appears to be a clever, carefully organized scheme, and your original endorsement reads like their advertising verbatim without offering any mention of first hand experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikkole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikkole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we ended up deciding to host our site on HostPapa. It will probably depend on what a person needs for their particular site. The whole list of the ones we looked at are here http://7gens.blogspot.com/search/label/Green%20web%20hosts

So far in Part 1 of 4 on the blog, I grouped the ones we found into two categories: Those that generate their own energy from a renewable source (mostly solar panels) and those that purchase renewable energy credits. 

Part 2 of 4 provides the detailed specs of each of the providers we looked at, including price, storage, bandwidth and other features, in order from least to most expensive.

Part 3 of 4 (scheduled for Sun 7/6) lists just those from among the larger list that have affiliate programs, with info on each of the affiliate programs&#039; commissions.

Part 4 of 4 (next week) will go into detail on why we selected HostPapa as our hosting provider. 

I can tell you that we have had our service with HostPapa for about 3 weeks and so far are very happy. We found them on several websites&#039; Top 10 lists (that listed both conventional and green options) and that, in particular, we really liked their reviews for uptime. Our Joomla-based site also loads much faster than it did on GoDaddy (our previous host). 

Does that help for now? (and you can check the blog for more details next Sunday) *wink*
-Nikkole</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we ended up deciding to host our site on HostPapa. It will probably depend on what a person needs for their particular site. The whole list of the ones we looked at are here <a href="http://7gens.blogspot.com/search/label/Green%20web%20hosts" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://7gens.blogspot.com/sear.....eb%20hosts</a></p>
<p>So far in Part 1 of 4 on the blog, I grouped the ones we found into two categories: Those that generate their own energy from a renewable source (mostly solar panels) and those that purchase renewable energy credits. </p>
<p>Part 2 of 4 provides the detailed specs of each of the providers we looked at, including price, storage, bandwidth and other features, in order from least to most expensive.</p>
<p>Part 3 of 4 (scheduled for Sun 7/6) lists just those from among the larger list that have affiliate programs, with info on each of the affiliate programs&#8217; commissions.</p>
<p>Part 4 of 4 (next week) will go into detail on why we selected HostPapa as our hosting provider. </p>
<p>I can tell you that we have had our service with HostPapa for about 3 weeks and so far are very happy. We found them on several websites&#8217; Top 10 lists (that listed both conventional and green options) and that, in particular, we really liked their reviews for uptime. Our Joomla-based site also loads much faster than it did on GoDaddy (our previous host). </p>
<p>Does that help for now? (and you can check the blog for more details next Sunday) *wink*<br />
-Nikkole</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-8901</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Nikkole, who do you recommend instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Nikkole, who do you recommend instead?</p>
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		<title>By: Nikkole</title>
		<link>http://www.dazzlindonna.com/blog/general/good-deals/green-web-hosting-thinkhost-is-my-choice/#comment-8900</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikkole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie-
Sorry you had such a negative response with ThinkHost. We just researched over 16 sustainable web hosts, and have found others since I did that in-depth research. There are others out there. The problem is that there are lots of good reviews out there about ThinkHost and other hosts that have affiliate programs with a (surprise, surprise) affiliate link. 

I am sharing the info we found and my experiences on my blog. After having put a lot of time into it, I decided it was wasted time if I didn&#039;t share that experience with others and save them their time (sort of contributing to the collective community of those who are trying to lighten their step on the planet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie-<br />
Sorry you had such a negative response with ThinkHost. We just researched over 16 sustainable web hosts, and have found others since I did that in-depth research. There are others out there. The problem is that there are lots of good reviews out there about ThinkHost and other hosts that have affiliate programs with a (surprise, surprise) affiliate link. </p>
<p>I am sharing the info we found and my experiences on my blog. After having put a lot of time into it, I decided it was wasted time if I didn&#8217;t share that experience with others and save them their time (sort of contributing to the collective community of those who are trying to lighten their step on the planet).</p>
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